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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:50 pm
by Sam-Q
so right now you do have an igf singnal from one of the coils and it still doesn't fire?

I am unsure what happens when an ignitor doesn't have a coil to fire, it may not send an IGF signal at all.

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:48 pm
by dr.occa
make sure your confirmation signal is from JUST ONE of the coils. NOT FROM ALL OF THE COILS.

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:57 am
by balmo
I do have one IGf signal from the coil. I does fire right up, but it cuts at about 5k revs. I also have another IGf signal from another cop to my sgi-8 to drive my tach. But the tach cuts at 3.5k revs.

I am not successful at running the cops without the coil/igniter. I pm'ed a member in club4ag who had similar problems I am having. Basically, he just put back his coil/igniter and the fuel cut is gone.

Im just going to try to copy the wiring diagram on the first page of this thread.

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:59 pm
by dr.occa
did you also check your CEL codes?

have you tried disconnecting the IGf signal to the sgi-8 to see if it'll run up that way?

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:18 am
by AE86silverred
Hey guys picked up some coils from a 2002 Honda civic for 100 bucks but the only thing is It dident have the plugs so I looked over and a accord had them I checked them out and they fit so he let me have them with the coils if they fit I'm good right I should not have any problems? It's the 3 plug by the way.

question will you be able to run the haltech e6x whith the cop system and if so. If I decide to go with the e6x will you be able to install it jonas?

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:08 am
by dr.occa
AE86Silverred - the best way to find out is contact Haltech. Installing is easy, tuning is another story.

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:12 pm
by balmo
I just want to update my cop project. after a long delay, I finally got my dli cop's running. What I differently was:
-exactly copied the cop diagram on this page
-mounted my coil and igniter properly
-mounted my ecu properly

that's it! ran all the way to 8k+ no problem. i didn't even put my autometer tach back because i have stock tach.

to summarize: cop's will not run by itself. you need coil and igniter to run it properly

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:49 pm
by dr.occa
balmo, which diagram and on which page? The first post and page of this thread? Glad to hear it's up and running.

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:18 pm
by balmo
yup 1st page of this thread. can't wait to get to the track!

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:07 pm
by okkie
Hi guys, I'm new here, so be gentle. I will be running a Microtech ECU with the 4Xbox (ignitor with 4 outputs) My question is: since the COPs of the current Toyota all include an ignitor each, what COPs can I use that do not have a in-built ignitor? I am still new to this, so does my question make sense or am I being stupid?

Okkie

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:45 pm
by dr.occa
No, it's a good question okkie.

I believe the 1MZFE cops that I cited in this thread are igniter less. They're the old 2 wire style. You can also look into COPs from the late 97+ Econoline, 98+ Crowns, etc...

Also, I believe you can use even the newer COPs from a 1zz, 2zz, 1nz, etc... just use the +12v and ground connections only.

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:18 am
by okkie
Thx, U are the MAN.

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:37 pm
by AznTKDmstr
will be doing this soon to my newly acquired blacktop! i dunno where you're finding coils for $50... maybe $50 EACH

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:00 pm
by dr.occa
AznTKDmstr wrote:will be doing this soon to my newly acquired blacktop! i dunno where you're finding coils for $50... maybe $50 EACH
It's just diligence and timing Thaison ;).

Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:20 pm
by bt20v
junk yards bro...You would be amaized what you find